{"id":2918,"date":"2012-04-28T08:25:54","date_gmt":"2012-04-28T15:25:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/?p=2918"},"modified":"2019-10-14T09:54:56","modified_gmt":"2019-10-14T16:54:56","slug":"tradition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/tradition\/","title":{"rendered":"Tradition!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"drop\">&#8220;Because of our traditions, every one of us knows who he is and what God expects him to do.&#8221; (Fiddler on the Roof)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"2923\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/tradition\/thomas-2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?fit=316%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"316,480\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Saint Thomas Aquinas\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Saint Thomas Aquinas&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?fit=316%2C480&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-2923\" title=\"Thomas\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?resize=197%2C300\" alt=\"\" width=\"197\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?resize=197%2C300&amp;ssl=1 197w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?w=316&amp;ssl=1 316w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 197px) 100vw, 197px\" \/><\/a>Like the Hebrews stretching back to the age of Moses, the Church is upheld by two great pillars: Scripture and Tradition. After the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Second_Vatican_Council\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Second Vatican Council<\/a> (1962\u20131965), large chunks of the Church embraced a whole lot of squishy thinking and threw out a whole lot of its <u>t<\/u>raditions.<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"wpsdc-drop-cap\">D<\/span>epending on whether you interpret the Council following a hermeneutic of rupture or a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catholicculture.org\/commentary\/articles.cfm?ID=296\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">hermeneutic of continuity<\/a>, it was either a &#8220;new Pentecost&#8221; and a complete break with the ancient <u>T<\/u>radition or it was renewal, a way of presenting <u>T<\/u>radition to the modern world.<\/p>\n<p>Since the Council ended before I was born, I really don&#8217;t have the emotional or ego investment in answering that question, though I note that Pope Benedict XVI constantly preaches the hermeneutic of continuity, while the hermeneutic of rupture is embraced by both the most liberal and most traditionalist forces in the Church.<\/p>\n<p>I can only give you my own experience. Coming from a non-churched family, I went to a Catholic high school at the very height of the try anything empty headed big-hearted post-Conciliar period. After four years of &#8220;Theology&#8221; courses, I really did think that the entire sum of Catholic intellectual development over 2,000 years was &#8220;Jesus loves you&#8221; and &#8220;be nice&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>While of course God loves us, there&#8217;s a lot more there than I was led to believe. I was fed a thin little gruel where my brain and my spirit were seeking after some real, substantial food.<\/p>\n<p>Is it any wonder that when I went on my spiritual quest in my 20s, I never gave Christianity a thought?<\/p>\n<p>The Church I learned about in my medieval history classes in no way resembled the Church to which I had been exposed in high school. <em>That<\/em> Church, with its great <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Romanesque_architecture\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Romanesque<\/a> monuments, with its contemplative plainchant and its Icons and altarpieces &#8211; that Church I might have joined.<\/p>\n<p>This modern thing with its <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Brutalist_architecture\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Brutalist<\/a> architecture, guitars, and harmonicas, with its doe-eyed water-colour Jesus was just plain silly and not worth a second look.<\/p>\n<p>Fortunately, God sent His saints and angels to grab me anyway. I thank Him every day that it only took twenty years.<\/p>\n<p>The younger generation of priests and laity are bringing back what was lost.<\/p>\n<p>This video (courtesy of <a href=\"http:\/\/wdtprs.com\/blog\/2012\/04\/four-minutes-on-what-happened-with-the-council-and-what-young-people-want-now\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">the inestimable Father Z<\/a>) is a very good reflection on the new traditionalism in the Church. It&#8217;s four minutes well worth your time.<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"640\" height=\"360\"><param name=\"movie\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/ZLeomOG3bN8&amp;rel=0&amp;hl=en_US&amp;feature=player_embedded&amp;version=3\" \/><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>While some Catholics of my generation refer to themselves as &#8220;Vatican II babies&#8221;, I prefer to think of myself as a &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Third_Council_of_the_Lateran\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Lateran III<\/a> baby&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8220;Because of our traditions, every one of us knows who he is and what God expects him to do.&#8221; (Fiddler on the Roof) Like the Hebrews stretching back to the age of Moses, the Church is upheld by two great pillars: Scripture and Tradition. After the Second Vatican Council (1962\u20131965), large chunks of the Church embraced a whole lot of [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":2923,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2},"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[7,32,26,17,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2918","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-history","category-inside-baseball","category-latin","category-rant","category-sacred-liturgy"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/04\/Thomas.jpg?fit=316%2C480&ssl=1","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p1aGBK-L4","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":false,"jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":100167,"url":"https:\/\/www.thomryng.com\/amateurmonk\/tradition-and-accommodation\/","url_meta":{"origin":2918,"position":0},"title":"Tradition and Accommodation","author":"Thom","date":"29 September 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Part 3 in an ongoing series of essays on the General Instruction of the Roman Missal. 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